Can you please create Clover more user friendly with better documentation and for Linux too?

[Slavomir9]

Dear developers,
can you please create Clover more user friendly with better documentation and for Linux too?
I found any guide for Linux for Clover 6 years old. It is probably not actual and guide is too difficult.
Can you please create any video guide?

I am not programmer. For me is use Clover too difficult.

Thank you

[SergeySlice]

As far as I know you should not make any effort to boot Linus from Clover. It just works.

[juanpc2018]

Try DUET 2020
or
rEFInd

Grub is the Linux default bootloader.

[Slavomir9]

SergeySlice
Any guides for Linux is possible found
Clover EFI Bootloader Manual Installation via Ubuntu (UEFI)
Boot Ubuntu and Linux Mint ISO from Clover Bootloader

[Slavomir9]

juanpc2018
Thank you very much for answer.
Yes. I use rEFInd. It is simple.
Advantage of Clover is more active development.

[SergeySlice]

May be you should read a manual
https://github.com/CloverHackyColor/CloverBootloader/releases/download/5160/Clover_Of_Khaki_Color_5160-en.pdf

[SergeySlice]

Try DUET 2020 or rEFInd

Grub is the Linux default bootloader.

It looks like advertising of extraneous work.

[Slavomir9]

SergeySlice Thank you very much for link on guide

[juanpc2018]

Problem 1.

DUET 2020 does Not work with Dual CPU server Bios board

My Goal is similar to DUET 2020
Boot Legacy BIOS USB MBR pendrive -> NVMe drivers ->
UEFI GPT Linux & UEFI MBR Windows 8.1x64 on BIOS machine.
& UEFI USB3 Ventoy

test if Clover has the same problem of DUET 2020 in Dual CPU server Bios board

Problem 2.

installing Clover for Legacy MBR on Linux or Windows

using Rufus / Unetbootin to burn Clover.iso to USB as MBR
does Not work like LinuxLiveCD .iso

Clover recommends GPT ssd/hdd,
but Linux Grub goes crazy if has GPT SSD + Bios Grub & Bios Machine.
Linux Grub requires GPT for UEFI, or MBR for Legacy / Bios Boot.
maybe some distros work, but Ubuntu 20.04.x LTS does Not.

Linux workaround:
copy Linux partition from GPT ssd to MBR ssd,
using Gparted of the same version LiveCD.iso
then use something like Boot-Rescue.iso to create the 500MB MBR Fat32 Bios Boot Grub,
or install a New Linux on the same SSD, on a different partition, & copy GPT partition later to MBR.
or use Clover or Duet 2020 to Boot UEFI GPT Linux from Bios Machine.

Windows 8.1x64
BCD Bootloader can be manually forced to be Bios & UEFI = bcdboot.exe /f ALL
i have tested SSD MBR /f ALL
works ok in DUET 2020.
but does Not work with a Real Mac Mini 2014, Only /f Bios

Reading the manual page 31 onwards:

Windows 
From Windows, it also makes sense to install the bootloader only on a FAT32 flash drive; 
to do this, simply run the:
> makeusb.bat X: 

where X: is the letter of your flash drive.

It is not supposed to have multiple partitions. 
This is Windows! 

All files needed for the script are included with Clover. 
However, the installer must first be unpacked, or these files must be obtained directly from github. 
They are located in the folder:
 /CloverBootloader/CloverPackage/CloverV2/BootSectors 

After running the script, 
the flash drive must be removed and reinserted, then copy the boot file and the EFI folder to it. 
It is even better to use BootDiskUtility.exe by Cvad, which will help create a flash drive from under Windows. 
http://www.applelife.ru/threads/delaem-zagruzochnuju-clover-fleshku-s-macosx-iz-windows.37189/

G Translator
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mirrorDownloading and resumingthe latest packages, Extracting after downloading HFS-Image for installation usingBDU. Automatic Checking/Downloading the Latest Version of Clover Bootloader and working with Zip andLZMAClover archives saved in Local Repository, Downloading files from User Download List and BDU Additional Download List, creating a FreeDos boot disk with the Volkov Commander file manager. We createa bootable USB Flash Diskfor MAC OS X withthe Current versionof Clover bootloader quickly and easily -in one click under Windows XP and above .

You can:

Make bootable USB Flash Disk for macOS with Latest Clover bootloader revision
Download(with resuming) Latest! Apple Recovery HD package,
Extract HFS-Image and Restore it with BDU.
Automatically Check/Download the Latest Clover Rev.
and Use Zip and LZMA archives in Local Repository
with existing Clover Rev,
Download files from User Download List
and BDU Additional Download List,
build FreeDos bootable drive
with Volkov Commander.

Format D: ...
Create boot sector ...
ERROR: Read DBR: failed - Failed to create files (LastError: 0x5)!
error E2003: File was not provided!
error E2003: File was not provided!
Could Not Find C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors\usbbs32.bin
Done.
RePlug device before using it!

makeusb.bat

@set EFI_BOOT_DISK=%1
@echo on

:CreateUsb_FAT32
@echo Format %EFI_BOOT_DISK% ...
@echo.> FormatCommandInput.txt
@format /FS:FAT32 /q %EFI_BOOT_DISK% < FormatCommandInput.txt > NUL
@del FormatCommandInput.txt
@echo Create boot sector ...
@Genbootsector.exe -i %EFI_BOOT_DISK% -o UsbBs32.bin
@Bootsectimage.exe -g UsbBs32.bin boot1f32.bin -f
@Genbootsector.exe -o %EFI_BOOT_DISK% -i boot1f32.bin
@Genbootsector.exe -m -o %EFI_BOOT_DISK% -i boot0.bin
@del usbbs32.bin
@echo Done.
@echo RePlug device before using it!

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Genbootsector.exe -i %EFI_BOOT_DISK% -o UsbBs32.bin
ERROR: Read DBR: failed - Failed to create files (LastError: 0x5)!

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Genbootsector.exe -i D: -o UsbBs32.bin
ERROR: Read DBR: failed - Failed to create files (LastError: 0x5)!

i think there is a mistake:
UsbBs32.bin
should be:
Usbs32.bin

there is a Usbs32.bin file,
but renaming only deletes renamed file.

Runing Windows8.1x64 Terminal cmd.exe as Administrator

C:\Users\user\Downloads\0-T-Down\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
operable program or batch file.
Create boot sector ...
Read DBR: successful!
error E2003: File was not provided!
error E2003: File was not provided!
Done.
RePlug device before using it!

For some strange reason: "@echo on"
UsbBs32.bin is Not created when running the .bat file as Administrator
should be "@echo off" and remove all @

manual command works ok:

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Genbootsector.exe -i d: -o UsbBs32.bin
Read DBR: successful!

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Bootsectimage.exe -g UsbBs32.bin boot1f32.bin -f

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Genbootsector.exe -o d: -i boot1f32.bin
error E2003: File was not provided!

there is No boot1f32.bin file,
there is:
boot1f32
boot1f32alt

Copy:
boot1f32 to boot1f32.bin

C:\Users\user\Downloads\0-T-Down\Clover\5162\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Bootsectimage.exe -g UsbBs32.bin boot1f32.bin -f
Patching FAT32 BPB: successful!

file boot0.bin also does Not exist.

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Genbootsector.exe -m -o d: -i boot0.bin
error E2003: File was not provided!

copy boot1f21.bin to boot0.bin
or
edit makeusb.bat
rename boot0.bin to boot1f32.bin

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Genbootsector.exe -m -o d: -i boot1f32.bin
Write MBR: successful!

Conclusion:

makeusb.bat
is a guide,
Not a working .bat

Download BDU Utility
BDU_v2.1.2022.030b.X64.zip

Extract BDU to Folder

Download Clover-5162-X64.iso.7z
paste to BDU Folder:
\BDU_v2.1.2022.030b.X64\Clover-5162-X64.iso.7z

Select Local Repo "Directory" where Clover-5162-X64.iso.7z is:
\BDU_v2.1.2022.030b.X64
or other.

Do Not Format
Select USB peddrive Partition
Click: [Restore.]

Will it work with a Dual CPU?

Drum Roll ....

Manual method do Not work,
i did it again and had an error:

C:\Users\user\Downloads\CloverV2-5162\BootSectors>
Genbootsector.exe -m -o d: -i boot1f32.bin
WARNING: Write MBR: failed - No MBR exists (LastError: 0x0)!

decided to test the BDU format tool Only.

Yes, Windows8.1x64 Sata-II 3Gbps SSD work with dual CPU board,
but did Not detected the NVMe PCIe with Linux,
probably i have to move drivers: NvmExpressDxe.efi
in the USB folder from:
\off
to
\bios
\EFI

No, moving drivers do Not work.

Linux PCIe NVMe is connected to CPU0 PCIE #6
should be No problem

same Linux, cloned from NVMe to SSD
works ok.
Only detects onboard SATA-II 3Gbps controller.

IF i test SATA-III 6Gbps PCIe controller result will be same as PCIe NVMe

Not Detected <----

msinfo32.exe

[SergeySlice]

About linux you may see
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Clover