[Enhancment] Avoiding Running outside of field on corners (turn)

[coatsy35]

I've been thinking a lot in the last week about implements and how they handle sharp corners and the tractor going outside of the field boundary. Quite often IRL you would not start your headland run on the blue dot in my picture below, you would back up to the hedge/ditch and lower your implement and start the path further back against the hedge/ditch where the blue dashed lines shows, this has the affect's that the next pass around the headland, you do not have to pull all the way forward towards the hedge, you can stop short and the next path will complete the work. Would something like this work in CP?

Picture below, hard to translate into a drawing. Basically the tractor starts further back on the dashed line rather than at the blue circle/dot where it currently does. This would help with drills, rolls, planters, ploughs etc.... Wouldn't' be good for spreaders as they throw too far back, or combines obviously. In fact with ploughing IRL when I had completed the centre work, I would often go and "pull the corners out" first in each direction and then start my headland runs, this would mean the soil under my tractor was also ploughed in the corner

[pvaiko]

Sorry, you lost me right at the second sentence, could you add something like a few numbered arrows to the diagram showing the movement of the tractor?

[coatsy35]

Sorry, you lost me right at the second sentence, could you add something like a few numbered arrows to the diagram showing the movement of the tractor?

I will try. Should be obvious from the photo's though. You can see the effect when the next pass overlaps the previous pass to keep neat corners that are fully drilled.

[coatsy35]

See below for a video I made to try and illustrate it. This is how you would handle sharp corners in the UK, especially where there are hedges, fences and ditches where you work from the inside out as CP does.

Most people would work from the outside in though, i.e. run alongside the hedge and then work towards the centre work if they don't have GPS or have basic GPS knowledge. Outside in tends to be people with GPS and want to show off their neatness by having no wheel marks left on the field.

https://youtu.be/46RgDlJDvjE

[pvaiko]

Oh that's great thanks. I think my confusion is that looking at your video here:

the area I marked is worked twice, once in the previous pass and a second time in this pass. If you work on it in this pass and pull as far forward as on this snapshot above with the implement lowered, than how is that different from what CP does now?

[coatsy35]

Oh that's great thanks. I think my confusion is that looking at your video here: the area I marked is worked twice, once in the previous pass and a second time in this pass. If you work on it in this pass and pull as far forward as on this snapshot above with the implement lowered, than how is that different from what CP does now?

It would man you tractor could stop short of the field boundary in front of it, so less risk of running into a tree or snagging on something that stops the tractor driving far enough forward to complete the pass (I often come back to a field to find a tractor unable to drive far enough forward to complete the pass with long implements such as a trailed drill or plough and they are stuck).

It's just an idea and food for thought.

[pvaiko]

Ok, I think I get it now, it definitely makes sense for implements that are long but relatively narrow so the tractor + implement is longer than the working width.

Moving to the Courseplay repo as this is a turn maneuver change, not a generator issue.

[coatsy35]

Ok, I think I get it now, it definitely makes sense for implements that are long but relatively narrow so the tractor + implement is longer than the working width.

Moving to the Courseplay repo as this is a turn maneuver change, not a generator issue.

Yes that's it.

[Tensuko]

Uhm, we kind of do this already, as long as the work width is bigger then the lenght of the vehicle.

[coatsy35]

Uhm, we kind of do this already, as long as the work width is bigger then the length of the vehicle.

Yes it does. But a lot of implements are longer than the width unfortunately, I see it with the Kuhn Merge Max and other large trailed windrowers,, the Krone Big M Mower, most trailed mowers like the Kongskilde GXT13005P comes to mind and KV 4140L, large square balers, most ploughs, and root harvesters as you already know.

Perhaps something can be done in the future.

[Tensuko]

Can you make a drawing with arrows how the turn should look like?

[pvaiko]

He did already, explained to me also there's a video. I know what to do.